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#1 sandrod

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Posted 09 February 2015 - 04:35 AM

hi , I have a modern laptop that run win 7 dual boot with linux mint 13. it works wondrously.

I have an old celeron 2 ghzlaptop, it is my play toy. I upgraded to an 80 Gb HDD and 1 Gb of ram.

it runs windows, yes I said it, windows, Xp home premium.

it has an external wifi adaptor as well, but that is another story.

i wanted to dual boot with a linux distro so it works faster.

I had done this a year ago using wubi and Lubuntu 11.10. I found someone to install indwiswrapper and driver for cisco wifi adaptor. all was good for a while, but it started to boot up slower and run slower.
so I have been trying to dual boot with another lighter distro.

I chose 6 light weight ones i read about and did a live USB to try them I focused on XFCE or LXDE desktop, for low resource usage.

the 6 were:

-crunch bang 11, XFCE, live USB worked, but couldn't install to HDD, black screen, HDD not running after I chose install, I got some text then nothing.

-mac puppy550, XFCE i tried to load to ram, got initial screen then, nothing HDD not working black screen

- Xubuntu 10.10, XFCE tried to load live USB, screen black HDD not runing

- linux lite 2.2 XFCE i tried live USB, boot up started then nothing black screen HDD not running.

- debian 7.7 text on live USB boot up, then black screen HDD not running

- Lubuntu LXDE 13.04 live USB booted up said "waiting for network config" then black screen, HDD not working

by fluke I saw bodhi,from google searches. I love it, it is so stylish although it is on Ubuntu, but enlightened is amazing, it ( version 2.4) ran amazing via LIVE USB. the themes were wonderious, sophisticated yet it was so fast

so I tired to install it as dual boot. I had ubuntu 9.1 aLREADY DUALBOOTED, IT WAS SOO SLOW, I HAD THE OPTION to over write it with bodhi and I chose that. it installed sucessfully

after booting and in grub chose bodhi linux 3.8 run from HDD, boot up starts, white screen with logo then black screen with arrow curser that moves, but nothing else.

right or left click NO menu? i pressed escape and enter nothing HDD not working. light is not on, just as above so no data transferring from or to HDD. like HDD sleeping

please help?? i love bodhi. thank you for making it. In desperation I tired to use non pae iso, but it did not even live boot,

PAE version did.

should I try to install to RAM or safemode or other install options.

I don't understand why it does not work from HDD after install on HDD.

i hold dowm power button to restart then I see white screen with bodhi logo flash as laptop powers off.

thank you for any help you can provide. sorry for the long post, i just thought you should know background and my intention.



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Posted 09 February 2015 - 07:02 AM

You should give the 3.0 RC3 Legacy cd a shot....it should run great on the specs you listed.

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Posted 10 February 2015 - 03:40 AM

You should give the 3.0 RC3 Legacy cd a shot....it should run great on the specs you listed.


hi thanks, what is the difference between 2.4 and 3.0 RC3 legacy?

what does "legacy" mean?

Do you think a live USB will not be successful with 3.0 RC3?

I do have a CD drive. I'll try a live CD to install 3.0 legacy RC3 with the Cd and let you know.

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Posted 10 February 2015 - 04:57 AM

hi thanks, what is the difference between 2.4 and 3.0 RC3 legacy?

what does "legacy" mean?

Do you think a live USB will not be successful with 3.0 RC3?

I do have a CD drive. I'll try a live CD to install 3.0 legacy RC3 with the Cd and let you know.


Legacy = Enlightenment 17 and an older kernel configured for hardware that has less memory.
Regular = Enlightenment 19 (which forces compositing to be on and eats up alot of cpu on older hardware)
3.0 = based on ubuntu 14.04 as opposed to older 12.04. Usb or CD should both work but 3.0 will be supported till 2019.

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Posted 11 February 2015 - 07:17 PM

Legacy = Enlightenment 17 and an older kernel configured for hardware that has less memory.
Regular = Enlightenment 19 (which forces compositing to be on and eats up alot of cpu on older hardware)
3.0 = based on ubuntu 14.04 as opposed to older 12.04. Usb or CD should both work but 3.0 will be supported till 2019.



hi Wolfe, I tried RC3 legacy using USB, but on booting it said something like bad kernel, so I tried RC2 legacy, on booting my screen was shaking left to right like it was having a seizure, it did boot up fast but unusable.

if it helps I looked at my system and it said mobile celeron 2 Ghz, but I have 1 Gb of RAM. the only way I got linux to work (Lubuntu 10.10 )was loading by wubi in windows and NOT by live USB or live CD.

any thoughts?

maybe I should try wubi installer again? can I do this type of install with bodhi, using wubi installer?

thanks for your your help.

although running bodhi from USB works great, I just can't install it to HDD and get it to work, like all the other light weight distros I tried as I mentioned in my original post. I am confused ????

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Posted 11 February 2015 - 08:34 PM

hi Wolfe, I tried RC3 legacy using USB, but on booting it said something like bad kernel, so I tried RC2 legacy, on booting my screen was shaking left to right like it was having a seizure, it did boot up fast but unusable.

if it helps I looked at my system and it said mobile celeron 2 Ghz, but I have 1 Gb of RAM. the only way I got linux to work (Lubuntu 10.10 )was loading by wubi in windows and NOT by live USB or live CD.

any thoughts?

maybe I should try wubi installer again? can I do this type of install with bodhi, using wubi installer?

thanks for your your help.

although running bodhi from USB works great, I just can't install it to HDD and get it to work, like all the other light weight distros I tried as I mentioned in my original post. I am confused ????


Are you verifying the md5sum's of the downloads you are using? All the bodhi images have a vesa mode/safe mode of booting up...did you try that? If wubi worked for you once you can always try it again. If it can install any other ubuntu it should handle bodhi. If none of that helps then I'm out of ideas and perhaps one of the more knowledgeable folks will be able to assist. On one laptop for a different distro I did end up pulling the hard drive, doing the install while it was in a different laptop and then moving the hard drive back....don't know if that's an option for you. You can also look for tools like "Macrium Reflect" which could be used to image an existing install (it's windows oriented but it creates a boot disk that can both make and restore an image) then put it onto a new hard drive.

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Posted 11 February 2015 - 08:36 PM

Hi sandrod did you verify the MD5 for the iso that created RC3? Also you could try running integrity check from the initial menu.

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Posted 11 February 2015 - 08:43 PM

I find it very strange that none of the listed OSs was installable to HDD. Could you provide the outcome of the following commands while running a live CD/USB?
sudo lshw -short
sudo fdisk -l
(that's a lower case L, not a number)

The first commands will tell a bit more about your hardware specs and the second about your HDD.

Enjoy,
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Posted 12 February 2015 - 05:39 AM

Are you verifying the md5sum's of the downloads you are using? All the bodhi images have a vesa mode/safe mode of booting up...did you try that? If wubi worked for you once you can always try it again. If it can install any other ubuntu it should handle bodhi. If none of that helps then I'm out of ideas and perhaps one of the more knowledgeable folks will be able to assist. On one laptop for a different distro I did end up pulling the hard drive, doing the install while it was in a different laptop and then moving the hard drive back....don't know if that's an option for you. You can also look for tools like "Macrium Reflect" which could be used to image an existing install (it's windows oriented but it creates a boot disk that can both make and restore an image) then put it onto a new hard drive.

Hi wolf,.i saw md5sum file, not sure how to do that. I know it checks iso file, is there a link or i will look it up.

I will also try vera mode / safe mode boot up and c what happens and report

There is also nomodeset and boot into ram.

I can remove hard drive and have other 40 Gb hdd. Loading hard drive externall is a good idea i will try and report my result

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Posted 12 February 2015 - 06:34 AM

I find it very strange that none of the listed OSs was installable to HDD. Could you provide the outcome of the following commands while running a live CD/USB?

sudo lshw -short
sudo fdisk -l
(that's a lower case L, not a number)

The first commands will tell a bit more about your hardware specs and the second about your HDD.

Enjoy,sudo
Charles.


hi charles here are the outcomes


/0/100/1d.7                 bus            82801DB/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-M) USB2 EHCI
/0/100/1e                   bridge         82801 PCI Bridge
/0/100/1e/5     eth0        network        RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+
/0/100/1e/9                 bridge         OZ601/6912/711E0 CardBus/SmartCardBu
/0/100/1f                   bridge         82801DB/DBL (ICH4/ICH4-L) LPC Interf
/0/100/1f.1                 storage        82801DB (ICH4) IDE Controller
/0/100/1f.3                 bus            82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M)
/0/100/1f.5                 multimedia     82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M)
/0/100/1f.6                 communication  82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M)
/0/1            scsi0       storage
/0/1/0.0.0      /dev/sda    disk           80GB WDC WD800BEVE-11
/0/1/0.0.0/1    /dev/sda1   volume         48GiB Windows FAT volume
/0/1/0.0.0/2    /dev/sda2   volume         26GiB Extended partition
/0/1/0.0.0/2/5  /dev/sda5   volume         20GiB W95 FAT32 partition
/0/1/0.0.0/2/6  /dev/sda6   volume         172MiB Linux swap / Solaris partitio
/0/1/0.0.0/2/7  /dev/sda7   volume         2366MiB Linux swap / Solaris partiti
/0/1/0.0.0/2/8  /dev/sda8   volume         3485MiB Linux filesystem partition
/0/2            scsi1       storage
/0/2/0.0.0      /dev/cdrom  disk           CDRW/DVD SBW-242
/0/3            scsi2       storage
/0/3/0.0.0      /dev/sdb    disk           16GB SCSI Disk
/0/3/0.0.0/1    /dev/sdb1   volume         15GiB Windows FAT volume
/1                          system

and

Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x7598518c

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *          63   101257694    50628816    c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
/dev/sda2       101259262   156301311    27521025    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
/dev/sda5       106494948   149162915    21333984    b  W95 FAT32
/dev/sda6       106141518   106494884      176683+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sda7       101259264   106104966     2422851+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sda8       149164032   156301311     3568640   83  Linux

Partition table entries are not in disk order

Disk /dev/sdb: 16.1 GB, 16108224512 bytes
1 heads, 32 sectors/track, 983168 cylinders, total 31461376 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0xc3072e18

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sdb1   *          48    31461375    15730664    c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)

i noticed with all my fooling around i have 2 swap drives.

thanks for your help

Edited by Charles@Bodhi, 12 February 2015 - 11:28 AM.
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Posted 12 February 2015 - 09:01 AM

Hi wolf,.i saw md5sum file, not sure how to do that. I know it checks iso file, is there a link or i will look it up.

I will also try vera mode / safe mode boot up and c what happens and report

There is also nomodeset and boot into ram.

I can remove hard drive and have other 40 Gb hdd. Loading hard drive externall is a good idea i will try and report my result


md5sum is a checksum...you type "md5sum FILENAME" and then compare the resulting md5sum to the one posted where the file was downloaded...if it was a good download they should be the same...this eliminates the possibility of a bad download.

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Posted 16 February 2015 - 05:32 AM

so the problem I found out why none of the light weight distros worked was the intel video driver.


he ( Glaser, a linux student ) removed the intel video driver and used "frame buffer" video driver instead

remember this old celeron laptop was to be a dual boot. it had win XP and bodhi installed. but bodhi would not
run from the HDD, scren went black.

he fixed the problem so bodhi 2.4 runs lighting fast as a dual boot on my old celeron laptop

here is what he did in terms of commands in the command line.

chroot : login to the system on laptop using bodhi on LIVE USB

apt-get remove package
apt-cache search pacakage

Xserver-xorg-video-intel:intel driver

this removed the intel video driver and used frame b.uffer video driver instead.

this issue is now solved as bodhi 2.4 runs from HDD fast.

i imagine any of the other lightweight distros would work now as well.

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Posted 16 February 2015 - 10:46 AM

Glad you found someone to help you out. Thanks for sharing your solution here.

Enjoy,
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