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#1 Lawlyet

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Posted 30 January 2016 - 07:56 PM

Hello.. I was thinking about Conky and Moksha. Since the beggining, there's been some kind of issues (like transparency, for example). Of course, some of them we are able to find a way, but maybe we are missing some serious cool oportunities. What about forking conky into a Moksha module? Maybe, even putting a way to download instantly conky-moksha's themes and plugins directly from repositories using a conky-moksha gui options menu.. Also, capacitity to use it inside Moksha bars. Something I often use, for instance, is a left big bar to put some eyecandy widgets, like clock. It would be great to have a chance to put a conky inside that bar, having options to use a transparent or a themed bar... Since the beggining, Enlightenment is known for it's great visual capacities... perhaps we should focus a little more on it.. 

What do you guys think? :D 





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Posted 31 January 2016 - 10:11 PM

We welcome the first contribution from you towards this idea!


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Posted 01 February 2016 - 10:41 AM

This sounds like a great idea!


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Posted 01 February 2016 - 04:02 PM

I am sure this is something people would use if someone wanted to work on it.



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Posted 01 February 2016 - 04:20 PM

Great idea but I doubt there is someone here to make it work. I beg your pardon if I am wrong ;)

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Posted 01 February 2016 - 06:19 PM

Personally, I don't feel the need for a conky module. I don't think conky really conflicts with Moksha, it's just that you need to make sure you have your settings set. Right?

(Though maybe something that helped setup conky in a beginner-friendly way, like fields you could fill in or check off would affect appearances and the like, that might be cool.)

What I would like to see is some pre-set conky for grabs like there used to be in the old art wiki.

I believe I started on a wiki page for setting up conky? I can try to see about finishing that up. :)
 

Also, capacitity to use it inside Moksha bars. Something I often use, for instance, is a left big bar to put some eyecandy widgets, like clock. It would be great to have a chance to put a conky inside that bar, having options to use a transparent or a themed bar...


I have mentioned before that I would love to have a gadget for the shelves that is a custom fixed-width blank space. You could use it as a separator, or you could have a nice spot to draw conky over.

Anything along those lines, I like. :D Because I would love to be able to custom-up how the clock looks or something.
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Posted 02 February 2016 - 05:27 AM

Environment in which each required in Conky and Moksha are many things that match, I can understand this opinion.

but if as Moksha (Enlightenment) module, it will need to re-create the full... 


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Posted 02 February 2016 - 12:11 PM

I checked out the conky github. The code is written on C+ - not sure how this would affect forking it for moksha.


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Posted 02 February 2016 - 12:43 PM

Some more info:

 

Making module for E17-E20 or Moksha is based on combination of EFL and C language. It needs a different approach. When I made a module enhancements or additional work, my study was based on skeleton module which is obligatory. Then you need to create your own code structures for your extention.



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Posted 02 February 2016 - 02:56 PM

I don't think any actual forking of Conky needs to be done. You can just have something that deals with and manipulates regular conky setups. Basically, kind of automates what you could do by hand.

I dunno, just feels like overcomplicating things otherwise.



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Posted 09 December 2016 - 06:35 PM

So, given that almost a year has passed since the start of this thread and no conky-like-module has emerged, I wanted to post my conkyrc file here for three reasons;  

 

i. The 4.0 release is using v1.10 of conky and that has an updated conkyrc syntax (lua) meaning that with the old syntax an error message  displays on conky startup and also syntax conversion takes place as conky tries to convert the old to the new, and

 

ii. to see if any of you can help me iron out a couple of config problems. 

 

iii. I styles conky to use a similar green to the revamped 4.0 Bodhi theme, I used #bad455 (badass!) and gold. So it fits quite nicely with a vanilla 4.0 install, although the bg color doesn't match because of laziness.

 

 

Conf prob 1: I can not get transparncy to work. This is not critical, but would  be nice. In another forum thread here, Jeff++ says I need the compositing module, but this module is not listed under modules. I'm thinking it isn't a module in that sense or use of the word 'module'?  The line "own_window_argb_value = 255", well the documentation doesn't make clear to me if 255 is 100% opaque or 0% opaque, but I tried it both ways.  

 

Conf prob 2: Getting this message "(Not all processes could be identified, non-owned process info

 will not be shown, you would have to be root to see it all.)" because of this line in my rc file:

${execi 30 netstat -ept | grep ESTAB | awk '{print $9}' | cut -d: -f1 | sort | uniq -c | sort -nr} 

because for some TCP connections I apparently need to be root, but I don't know how to be root in an rc script (or if I even want to be). At least I think it is that line causing the message, I have observed that not all tcp connections show up in the display when I know that there is more activity than I am seeing. 

 

Typical output from this line is like:  

4 1609/midori
1 1234/curl

I think logging this "not all processes..." eventually causes conky to fail, because there are no other warnings or errors, and fail it does every time after about 10-20 mins. The "not all processes..." line gets output to terminal repeatedly. Dump from terminal added below. Suggestions on how to debug are welcome.

 

 

Not really bug per se, but I'm also getting some flickering when conky updates. Seems to happen when Fortune gets a new quote. Any way to solve that? 

 

Here is conkyrc with the newer syntax:

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Terminal dump from when conky has a shit-fit:  

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Posted 14 December 2016 - 07:35 PM

I like conky on my XFCE desktop, but I usually keep my moksha desktop completely clear of anything . ... its either keyboard shortcut or rightclick...


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Posted 11 January 2017 - 01:31 PM

Hello.. I was thinking about Conky and Moksha. Since the beggining, there's been some kind of issues (like transparency, for example). Of course, some of them we are able to find a way, but maybe we are missing some serious cool oportunities. What about forking conky into a Moksha module? Maybe, even putting a way to download instantly conky-moksha's themes and plugins directly from repositories using a conky-moksha gui options menu.. Also, capacitity to use it inside Moksha bars. Something I often use, for instance, is a left big bar to put some eyecandy widgets, like clock. It would be great to have a chance to put a conky inside that bar, having options to use a transparent or a themed bar... Since the beggining, Enlightenment is known for it's great visual capacities... perhaps we should focus a little more on it.. 

What do you guys think? :D

I didn't know that conky didn't work with Moksha...I was planning on giving it a try - glad this topic exists!

 

So it sounds like the Mythbusters would call this one "plausible" at most?


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Posted 11 January 2017 - 08:47 PM



I didn't know that conky didn't work with Moksha...I was planning on giving it a try - glad this topic exists!

 

So it sounds like the Mythbusters would call this one "plausible" at most?

 

True, there is no Conky module, but conky is an application that can be used freely and is present in the ubuntu repos.

Reading the manpages of conky is laborious but has the info about the opacity settings.

But:

Conky for the most of its effects needs a compositor. ATM there is no native compositing module that is working as wanted on BodhiLinux. However a valid alternative is "compton" (in the repos too) that allows for transparency and a more fluid behavior of the desktop. The same conky config that I had in Bodhi 1, 2 and 3 with various E17 versions still provides me lots of info on screen with Moksha.

 

I'd say, start playing and show us some of the resulting desktops in the desktop topic.

 

Enjoy,

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Posted 12 January 2017 - 03:20 AM

True, there is no Conky module, but conky is an application that can be used freely and is present in the ubuntu repos.

Reading the manpages of conky is laborious but has the info about the opacity settings.

But:

Conky for the most of its effects needs a compositor. ATM there is no native compositing module that is working as wanted on BodhiLinux. However a valid alternative is "compton" (in the repos too) that allows for transparency and a more fluid behavior of the desktop. The same conky config that I had in Bodhi 1, 2 and 3 with various E17 versions still provides me lots of info on screen with Moksha.

 

I'd say, start playing and show us some of the resulting desktops in the desktop topic.

 

Enjoy,

Charles

 

That is sort of what I thought I gathered from reading some ubuntu forums, tidbits of the manpages, etc...it seems plausible (even more so now!)  I will have to check out compton and start playing around. 

 

I generally gravitate towards just having an absolute blank desktop...no shelves, no icons and just a black or gray background...however, on my new build, I thought seeing some network usage, memory, CPU/cores, temps, etc could be sweet...but then not really much else.

 

Our work PCs are configured by our parent company's IT department...all windowz boxes... but they have a blue background with some info...bios rev., java vers., uptime, etc.  Even though it is literally just white text, it got me thinking.

 

This is so great!  Thank you, Charles!  Those desktops are fantastic - thanks for sharing!


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