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#21 graywizardlinux

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Posted 08 February 2017 - 01:06 PM

just thinking - since Charles helped me out with something in another thread.  Maybe a list of shortcut commands -  for various processes.  i.e.  cntrl/alt/end..

 

etc....  and what they do as such.  that might be very useful.

 

i realize this is tedious and also take s a lot of knowledge  to do but it would could help and esp. if they were categorized if/where needed.  re: specific tasks.  Just a thought.





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Posted 08 February 2017 - 03:21 PM



just thinking - since Charles helped me out with something in another thread.  Maybe a list of shortcut commands -  for various processes.  i.e.  cntrl/alt/end..

 

etc....  and what they do as such.  that might be very useful.

 

i realize this is tedious and also take s a lot of knowledge  to do but it would could help and esp. if they were categorized if/where needed.  re: specific tasks.  Just a thought.

I think this is a cool idea - is this something that you could help compile?

 

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Here is the link to the tracking sheet for anyone wanting to take a look, assist, etc.

 

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Posted 08 February 2017 - 04:12 PM

seriously - wish i could but i do not know very much at all.  I am also dealing with a very sick dog recently and also already pruning the vineyard and getting the garden started believe it or not plus another 100 ton of firewood to get cut by summer.  ( a dream)

 

so due to my lack of knowledge i just wouldn't be much help.  I guess that is why i came up with the idea(s).

 

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Posted 08 February 2017 - 06:42 PM

I do apologize.

 

No need - good ideas are a very welcome thing as well!


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Posted 08 February 2017 - 06:58 PM

years ago i researched and found a glitch and a fix via contacting the developer on neooffice/open office and when i wrote it up it was too academic i was told and not cold-hearted as the wiki entries are supposed to be - just the facts mam ----  so i guess my wiki skills would be rather useless.

 

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Posted 09 February 2017 - 04:38 AM

The most straight forward thing to get started would be updating the Quick Start wiki pages to make sure all the information in them matches the updated local Quick Start Guide you access via About Operating System -> Help.

 

After that just combing through pages making sure we remove all references to Enlightenment (especially e18+) and replace them with Moksha would be ideal. The Bodhi Guide to Enlightenment (which is a fine name I think even with the desktop change) should make sure it all references Moksha as well now.

 

They are fairly similar - I'll attempt to get to this in the next couple of days to make sure they are good to go.


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Posted 05 October 2017 - 03:42 AM

Ready to get started on the Wiki this month having been discharged of offensive military liabilities, which means that if a war breaks out in Korea or Myanmar or Taiwan, I almost definitely am staying behind as the national guard equivalent. Pray tell, do I need special editorial permissions to get started? I will most likely be running a virtual instance of Bodhi 4.3.1 to get things done in the following months ahead.


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Posted 05 October 2017 - 05:20 PM

You will need an account to edit the wiki. I'm not sure we have anyone currently working on things. Are there particular pages you were interested in creating / restructuring? I know the "install guide" could probably use updating? I'm told unetbootin no longer works as consistently as we would like and there are better tools out there we can direct users to use for creating bootable USB devices. 



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Posted 06 October 2017 - 05:11 AM

I take what is given. :)


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Posted 04 December 2017 - 11:13 PM

I'm told unetbootin no longer works as consistently as we would like and there are better tools out there we can direct users to use for creating bootable USB devices. 

 

Hello Jeff,

 

Any ideas what tools are working for people - I would be willing to explore and assist with updating (if needed).  Should any Wiki pages need updating, I am back around for a bit as life has calmed down - let me know!

 

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Posted 05 December 2017 - 12:34 PM

Any ideas what tools are working for people - I would be willing to explore and assist with updating (if needed).  Should any Wiki pages need updating, I am back around for a bit as life has calmed down - let me know!

 

Unetbootin has not worked correctly for me the past few times I've tried to use it, so I've basically just stopped using it. Some others on the forums may have other graphical tools that they like, hopefully they will chime in here.

 

There is a tool called rufus that does a great job of creating bootable USB's, however it only runs natively in Windows. It's capable of creating UEFI bootable USB's with GPT partitioning, as well as Legacy/BIOS bootable USB's with MBR/MSDOS partitioning. But you have to know ahead of time which you are going to need. Which can be a bit confusing if one has never dug into that stuff before. Bringing me to the beauty of the 'dd' method below...

 

 

Otherwise, currently the best way to create a bootable USB for Bodhi is by issuing a variant of the command

sudo dd if=/path/to/bodhi.iso of=/dev/sdX

in the terminal, where sdX is the plugged USB designation. (The command `sudo parted -l` should give a good listing of which /dev/sdX belongs to your plugged in USB) This method will make the USB bootable and installable in both Legacy/BIOS and UEFI systems. No other action is necessary in USB creation.  **except very rarely, on some systems I have had to unplug the USB while power is off and re-insert before booting, not sure why**  Our ISO's are created using a hybrid boot method very similar to what Ubuntu also uses. So basically, a USB created using 'dd' will automatically know how to boot based on the current settings in the "BIOS". (You probably know all of this stuff, but I'm just putting it here for completeness.)

 

 

Alternatively, if someone wants to burn a CD/DVD that will be bootable under both Legacy & UEFI, this command will work:

(it is basically the equivalent of 'dd' for a CD/DVD)

xorrecord dev=/dev/sr0 speed=12 fs=8m blank=as_needed -eject padsize=300k /path/to/bodhi.iso
-- or --
you may need to replace 'sr0' above with one of --> cdrom, cdrw, dvd, dvdrw (or possibly others) 

Back to rufus, or any other graphical USB creator...

Windows 8/10 users will have to create a UEFI-USB if they want to maintain dual boot with Windows.

Windows 7 users may have to experiment a bit to determine *for sure* which boot methed they need to use. GPT partitioning and UEFI boot methods were beginning to be implemented during the Windows 7 era.

Windows XP and below users will for sure be booting in Legacy mode.

 

But again, if the USB is created using the 'dd' method above, the USB will automatically boot using the correct method for that PC's "BIOS" setup. (BIOS vs UEFI is a whole different conversation, there are actually very very few machines that will be using BIOS to boot.  Even though it may be an old PC booting in Legacy mode, there's a very good chance that it's actually using a UEFI interface, not technically BIOS.  Anyway... Squirrel !) 

 

Thanks to all who work on the wiki, and many regards.


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Posted 05 December 2017 - 06:13 PM

Thank you, Sef!

 

Do you think it would be worthwhile to include your excellent information [thank you, btw!] near the end of the install page under a heading of something along the lines of, "*if unetbootin didn't work*"?  I am fortunate in that unetbootin has worked successfully each time I have attempted. 

 

I am not sure how much access I have to a Windows machine...but I'm sure we could acquire some screen shots, etc.  Also, thank you for walking me through this information, as creating bootable install media is not one of my strengths.

 

Let's come up with a step by step to post and check with Jeff to see if it jives? 

 

Thank you again, Sef - your knowledge of Linux is awesome :)


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Posted 05 December 2017 - 08:10 PM

Thank you, you're far too kind, I'm simply standing on the shoulders of many giants.   ^_^

 

As far as the wiki goes, if we're going to copy & paste what I've just written, I'll go through it and write it out in a better way and PM it to you. Hopefully I can get to it by the end of the week. Looks like I'll probably have some time Thurs and/or Fri.

 

I like your idea about *if unetbootin didn't work*, because many people are familiar with it and most would rather use a GUI than cmd line. Also, it's possible that unetbootin will start working with UEFI USB creations at some point.


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Posted 12 December 2017 - 06:49 AM

Sef,

 

I did a rough first attempt at a go through on this - if you want to take a look and PM me changes, etc, that would be great. 

 

Thanks for the initial "alternative - if Unetbootin fails" guide!

 

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Posted 12 December 2017 - 02:03 PM

If you are looking for a decent wiki page that would be useful to have - detailing how to add start up applications is a question that pops up enough that a wiki page would be useful showing how to use the System Tool GUI / edit the files by hand. 



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Posted 12 December 2017 - 05:53 PM

If you are looking for a decent wiki page that would be useful to have - detailing how to add start up applications is a question that pops up enough that a wiki page would be useful showing how to use the System Tool GUI / edit the files by hand. 

 

Sounds good - I'll try to start building something, though I have not personally used this feature within Bodhi. 

 

I'm thinking if I get something started then some users with experience can chime in.

 

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Posted 12 December 2017 - 06:46 PM

Moved and expanded the information regarding 'dd' install method (thank you, sef!). 

 

I haven't had a chance to clean up the formatting yet...hopefully will have more time this evening. 

 

[Edit]

 

Cleared formatting and have started to clean things up - looking a bit better but looking for feedback and ideas!

 

Thank you sef and anyone that takes a look!


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Posted 13 December 2017 - 03:10 AM

Jeff,

 

Started on the "Startup Applications" page (http://www.bodhilinu...p-applications/) you had the idea for and have been attempting to follow the formats of other pages (something I hope to make more contiguous overall at some point soon!). 

 

Speaking of, do we want/have an area or page outlining our Wiki formatting?  Is there an industry standard to observer?  On our Wiki, some areas have programs bolded and actions italicized, (etc) but it does not appear to be consistent.  As Bodhi grows and continues to be more and more amazing, it likely will be a good idea to have an explanation page to keep tabs on this and assist with new page generation, edits and cleanup - even if it is just a private "Team" page.  I would hate to see uniformization become an impossible task moving forward as the Bodhi Wiki grows...

 

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Not to be confusing, for I lack a better way to explain this currently but...I am editing the "Bodhi Wiki"...do we maintain the official "Wiki for Bodhi"?  Is that just a public Wiki?  Any updates needed there?

 

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Anywho...

 

The blank between GUI and CMD will have some screen shots showing menus examples at some point soon.  Other ideas? 

 

Glad to at least kicked this page off - any feedback is so welcome!  Thanks everyone!

 

Cheers!


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Posted 13 December 2017 - 05:28 AM

Start up page looks nice! Can you point the recommend GUI tool to be Menu -> Applications -> System Tools -> System Settings though? This is the swami tool which includes a GUI method for adding startup commands in addition to applications with .desktop files. 



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Posted 13 December 2017 - 06:43 AM

Start up page looks nice! Can you point the recommend GUI tool to be Menu -> Applications -> System Tools -> System Settings though? This is the swami tool which includes a GUI method for adding startup commands in addition to applications with .desktop files. 

 

I have updated this area but maintained what I had also as an "alt" method... (I had to dig a tiny bit to locate my method/location as "your [nothing personal] method" does not appear to exist on my system - which I'm sure we will explore!  Am I somehow missing Swami or a menu component?).  I honestly do know know what Swami is or why it would be needed as I haven't run into a use/need (until know!).

 

Very glad to be getting this new page going! 

 

Thank you for the feedback and expertise, Jeff!  You inspire! :) ;)

 

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