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#41 Charles@Bodhi

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Posted 20 June 2017 - 08:35 PM

a,most finished on the insatll.  so how do i go back to the kernel i ws using on my 2 other thinkpads with bodhi 3?  will that get me more stable and alo get me the control of the trackpad with gpointed devices?

 

No, gpointing-device-settings is not available in the repos for Bodhi 4. That is not related to the kernel, the package is just no longer maintained. There might be an alternative though somewhere.

 

There are ways to set the sensitivity of the trackpad using a configuration file, but that has to be written from scratch. Maybe someone here is familiar with that, else I will do more research for you, but not right now.

 

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Posted 20 June 2017 - 08:41 PM

For getting a more stable performance you must first run:

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get autoremove
sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

This will iron out some quirks.

 

Enjoy,

Charles



#43 graywizardlinux

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Posted 20 June 2017 - 08:46 PM

thanks i take it it all just insividual commands in terminal

 

i thik sef said that by going back to a kernel version that worked on the bodhi 3 thinpads that gpointing would work.  maybe my mistake.

 

 

did each line as separate commans - not sure what i removed in 2nd line.



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Posted 20 June 2017 - 08:57 PM

ok done.



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Posted 20 June 2017 - 09:15 PM

Can you post the outcome of

lshw -short

That might give an idea of the devices your laptop uses, more special the type of your touchpad.

 

I've seen something promising but that was aimed to a t440s with a very jumpy touchpad.

 

Enjoy,

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Posted 20 June 2017 - 09:20 PM

other@other:~$ lshw -short
WARNING: you should run this program as super-user.
H/W path       Device      Class          Description
=====================================================
                           system         Computer
/0                         bus            Motherboard
/0/0                       memory         888MiB System memory
/0/1                       processor      Intel® Core™2 Duo CPU     P8600
/0/100                     bridge         Mobile 4 Series Chipset Memory Control
/0/100/2                   display        Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Gra
/0/100/2.1                 display        Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Gra
/0/100/3                   communication  Mobile 4 Series Chipset MEI Controller
/0/100/1a                  bus            82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controll
/0/100/1a.1                bus            82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controll
/0/100/1a.2                bus            82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controll
/0/100/1a.7                bus            82801I (ICH9 Family) USB2 EHCI Control
/0/100/1b                  multimedia     82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controll
/0/100/1c                  bridge         82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port
/0/100/1c.1                bridge         82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port
/0/100/1c.1/0  wlp3s0      network        PRO/Wireless 5100 AGN [Shiloh] Network
/0/100/1c.3                bridge         82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port
/0/100/1c.4                bridge         82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port
/0/100/1c.5                bridge         82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port
/0/100/1c.5/0  ens5        network        NetLink BCM5787M Gigabit Ethernet PCI
/0/100/1d                  bus            82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controll
/0/100/1d.1                bus            82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controll
/0/100/1d.2                bus            82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controll
/0/100/1d.7                bus            82801I (ICH9 Family) USB2 EHCI Control
/0/100/1e                  bridge         82801 Mobile PCI Bridge
/0/100/1e/0                bridge         RL5c476 II
/0/100/1e/0.1              bus            R5C832 IEEE 1394 Controller
/0/100/1e/0.2              generic        R5C822 SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro Host Adapt
/0/100/1e/0.4              generic        R5C592 Memory Stick Bus Host Adapter
/0/100/1e/0.5              generic        xD-Picture Card Controller
/0/100/1f                  bridge         ICH9M LPC Interface Controller
/0/100/1f.2                storage        82801IBM/IEM (ICH9M/ICH9M-E) 4 port SA
/0/100/1f.3                bus            82801I (ICH9 Family) SMBus Controller
/0/2           scsi1       storage
/0/2/0.0.0     /dev/cdrom  disk           RW/DVD GCC-T20N
WARNING: output may be incomplete or inaccurate, you should run this program as super-user.
other@other:~$ ^C
other@other:~$ ^C
other@other:~$


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Posted 20 June 2017 - 10:35 PM

graywizardlinux, if you question what things do, you can sometimes open a terminal and type man followed by the command you are curious about. In this case I believe you would have to type

man apt-get

or maybe

man autoremove

I can't promise those will work, but, the man command is useful in the command line to learn about commands right there.

To attempt to answer your question what does autoremove do, I believe autoremove just deletes unused deb files. Say you install firefox and then some time in the future it updates, if you run sudo apt-get autoremove, the old firefox deb file will be deleted. There is another command, autoclean. It removes packages that are no longer needed. If you dist-upgrade from the command line, you will sometimes see a list of packages to be installed followed by something like a list of packages preceded by "The following packages are no longer needed. Run apt-get autoclean to remove them."



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Posted 20 June 2017 - 10:42 PM

ok thanks birdmun.  my eyes are already getting crossed from working on these 2 laptops today.  installing on one and working on the other.  ok but if you just type apt-get autoremove - that removes ALL not needed files for anything or how does it know re: your ex. of firefox.  or is it a total clean?  for everything?

 

thank you.



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Posted 20 June 2017 - 10:48 PM

the trackpad is still sometimes all over but mostly clicking on everything and openeing alot of random windows and retweaking thing i set.  that is the bad of it all...  damn

 

 

i even get the menu just popping open all by itself at time - weird eh?



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Posted 21 June 2017 - 12:23 AM

Good decision, to hold off on those upgrades. After 2 consecutive days, the mind resembles a salad. Or worst case--like your grueling experience the feta cheese in a Greek salad. I say there are things that are more pressing (in the vineyard, perhaps the dinner table).

 

I have decided in the meantime to return to Openbox in the distro OBRevenge, but this is me back in distro hopping mode--nothing has been installed yet. It is not as minimalist, but that's just fine. I've got the 4 workspaces, Thunar, terminology, and wifi. With a multi-distro live USB on a 16G stick, and an X61 convertible soon to arrive, there will be plenty of time to pick distros to add to the stick.

 

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Posted 21 June 2017 - 04:42 AM

Mind you I wouldn't take what I am sharing as gospel. It is just my understanding of things.

Re: autoremove

Say you install firefox 45.0.34 (or whatever the full version is). When you do a dist-upgrade and version 46 is installed, the deb file for the earlier version is still sitting on your hard drive taking up space. When you apt-get autoremove, you will see the earlier version deb is deleted.

Re: autoclean

If you install a package/program that requires perl and a week later the program just isn't doing what you want or you find something better, so you remove the program. Perl is still installed but no longer needed on your system. During a dist-upgrade, you will be notified that perl is installed but no longer needed. You will also see mention that using apt-get autoclean will remove packages that are no longer required.

I hope that clears things up for you.



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Posted 21 June 2017 - 09:36 AM

Mind you I wouldn't take what I am sharing as gospel. It is just my understanding of things.

Re: autoremove

Say you install firefox 45.0.34 (or whatever the full version is). When you do a dist-upgrade and version 46 is installed, the deb file for the earlier version is still sitting on your hard drive taking up space. When you apt-get autoremove, you will see the earlier version deb is deleted.

Re: autoclean

If you install a package/program that requires perl and a week later the program just isn't doing what you want or you find something better, so you remove the program. Perl is still installed but no longer needed on your system. During a dist-upgrade, you will be notified that perl is installed but no longer needed. You will also see mention that using apt-get autoclean will remove packages that are no longer required.

I hope that clears things up for you.

 

Description is about right but autoclean is removing old debs that take space on disk and autoremove comes in when you have debs installed that have no function because they are not needed by another package. So just the other way around.

 

Enjoy,

Charles



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Posted 21 June 2017 - 07:02 PM

EDIT -->   See post #55 below for complete install instructions as of this date 6/22/2017   <-- END EDIT

 

@greywizardlinux,

 

I see that there is an unofficial release for gpointing-device-settings here --
 
I cannot guarantee anything with this package except that I've read on this forum that it's available.
 
In a terminal, you can do this to install it if you want to give it a try --
wget http://launchpadlibrarian.net/128621862/gpointing-device-settings_1.5.1-6ubuntu2_amd64.deb
sudo dpkg -i ./gpointing-device-settings_1.5.1-6ubuntu2_amd64.deb

If you install it, you may not need to roll back your kernel to the previous one (3.16.0-45-generic).

 

Let me know what you decide, cuz if you don't want to install this package, we can always try rolling back to the other kernel first.

 

Anyone have any tips on installing 'unofficial' packages? I've never really had a problem doing it myself.


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Posted 21 June 2017 - 08:30 PM

Better not install that version of gpointing-settings. It requires another package that can not be found in the repos and leaves you with something unconfigured, blocking apt that way. 

 

Just in case someone did try to install, run 

sudo dpkg -r gpointing-device-settings

to repair the broken apt-get.



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Posted 22 June 2017 - 02:54 PM

Sorry about the incomplete instructions above, just didn't have time to actually install it until now.

 

Ok, I was able to install it on my Bodhi 4.2 - 64bit install on my ASUS laptop exactly like this

 

Open a terminal and type the stuff that's not in parentheses --

  (update your repositories)
sudo apt-get update
  (install some packages that will be required by gpointing settings)
sudo apt-get install gconf2 man-db desktop-file-utils mime-support menu
  (make a temp directory)
mkdir temp
  (move into that temp directory)
cd temp
  (download the 'libgpds0' deb file that is required by gpointing settings)
wget http://launchpadlibrarian.net/128621864/libgpds0_1.5.1-6ubuntu2_amd64.deb
  (install the 'libgpds0' package)
sudo dpkg -i ./libgpds0_1.5.1-6ubuntu2_amd64.deb
  (download the 'gpointing-device-settings' deb file)
wget http://launchpadlibrarian.net/128621862/gpointing-device-settings_1.5.1-6ubuntu2_amd64.deb
  (install the 'gpointing-device-settings' package)
sudo dpkg -i ./gpointing-device-settings_1.5.1-6ubuntu2_amd64.deb

I now have "Pointing Devices" in the Preferences portion of my main menu.


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#56 graywizardlinux

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Posted 22 June 2017 - 04:23 PM

sorry had a lot going on and also just ticked that the mouse and trackpad was lll over the place and so many windows opening it was crazy.  if other distors have trackpad going with the new kernel why don't we have it?

 

let me try reinstalling bodhi - updating it and the trying your terminal stuff.

 

man that is just a deal breaker - i depend on the trackpad on all my laptops other than my office onee - which i use a mouse at times.

 

give me some time and will get back and also answer the PM



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Posted 22 June 2017 - 04:44 PM

i hope this will work and if so then for my other 2 more important ones and even my wife's.  i just hate other DE's.  seriously.  i love my bodhi 3 and hoping 4 will work but trackpad issues are a real deal breaker.  thanks everyone.  i will get back asson as i install update and do the terminal stuu in above post!  other stuff seemed to work but that damn trackpad stuff.



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Posted 22 June 2017 - 06:01 PM

ok for the sudo apt-get updat i get this

 

1 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntuxenial-security InRelease [102 kB]
Get:3 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntuxenial-updates InRelease [102 kB]
Ign:6 http://packages.bodhilinux.com/bodhixenial Release.gpg
Get:7 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntuxenial-backports InRelease [102 kB]
Fetched 306 kB in 0s (591 kB/s)
E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
 
 
i did just update after install and tried another time to make sure no updates available.


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Posted 22 June 2017 - 06:04 PM

well tried to contiue and tried 2nd time this is all i got for the first 2 lines of the commands

 

:~$ sudo apt-get update
[sudo] password for other:
Get:2 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntuxenial-security InRelease
 [102 kB]
Get:3 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntuxenial-updates InReleas
e [102 kB]
Get:5 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntuxenial-backports InRele
ase [102 kB]
Ign:7 http://packages.bodhilinux.com/bodhixenial Release.gpg
Fetched 306 kB in 0s (322 kB/s)
E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource tem
porarily unavailable)
E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/),
is another process using it?
other@other:~$ sudo apt-get update
Get:1 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntuxenial-security InRelease
 [102 kB]
Get:3 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntuxenial-updates InReleas
e [102 kB]
Ign:6 http://packages.bodhilinux.com/bodhixenial Release.gpg
Get:7 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntuxenial-backports InRele
ase [102 kB]
Fetched 306 kB in 0s (591 kB/s)
E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource tem
porarily unavailable)
E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/),
is another process using it?
other@other:~$ sudo apt-get install gconf2 man-db desktop-file-ut
ils mime-support menu
E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
other@other:~$ other
No command 'other' found, did you mean:
 Command 'otter' from package 'otter' (universe)
other: command not found
other@other:~$ sudo apt-get install gconf2 man-db desktop-file-utils mime-support menu
E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
other@other:~$ other
No command 'other' found, did you mean:
 Command 'otter' from package 'otter' (universe)
other: command not found
other@other:~$
 
 
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Posted 22 June 2017 - 06:08 PM

tried system update and all is well 

 

agan ran the first line of what you have and 

 

 

other@other:~$ sudo apt-get update
[sudo] password for other:
Get:1 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntuxenial-security InRelease [102 kB]
Get:4 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntuxenial-updates InRelease [102 kB]
Ign:6 http://packages.bodhilinux.com/bodhixenial Release.gpg
Get:7 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntuxenial-backports InRelease [102 kB]
Fetched 306 kB in 0s (436 kB/s)
E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
other@other:~$ ^C
other@other:~$





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