[Dick]

Jeff,

I'm using Bodhi on an 2 year old netbook (Acer One ZG5). It runs excellent but I don't want to use too heavy programs. In your recommended software page list I can't see which are heavy and which are light on my system. The openoffice programs do run on my netbook but are heavy (I know that one). But for others I don't know that. Is it possible to introduce a new Recommended software list with only light applications on it?

Dick

[jarope]

Hi Dick,

thats a good idea, I am sure a few others would appreciate that. I will put it to Mark who looks after the software page.

Jason

[Rob]

Nano is extremely light....

Unfortunately Open/Libre Office are extremely "heavy/sluggish" feeling. Expecially when you might be more familiar with MS office which offers the same/more features, but still feels less sluggish.
You might struggle to find office applications in Linux with such features, and doesn't feel sluggish, this is where you could possibly look at online applications, googleDocs for example, if you are not using heavy features but still want more than Gedit can do.

You need to decide what trade off you are willing to make, I think askin Jeff to go through apps all the time to review them will take away his time from more important tasks for Bodhi. Ideally there would be a nice Application/repositry tool which allowed both Official (distro based) and user grading of the software (no comments). This would be a big help when trying to decide which command line edit to use, or what browser email client is feeling good on the distro.

[ottermaton]

jason, on 03 February 2011 - 02:04 PM, said:

thats a good idea, I am sure a few others would appreciate that. I will put it to Mark who looks after the software page.

Jason

I was under the impression that the majority of the apps in the Recommends are light (I just took the list from Jeff without having ever used many of them myself), but perusing the list I see that's not the case in many examples. The software pages are about to switch over to running on DokuWiki, so it may be some time til I actually put the light list up, but would like to get your ideas on light apps in the meantime.

I'll start: (BR = the current "regular" recommendation, BL = Bodhi Light apps)
mail: BR Thunderbird; BL Claws
web: BR Chromium; BL Midori
office: BR LibreOffice; BL Light Office

That's just what I can think of quickly off the top of my head.

cheers
mark

[Rob]

ottermaton, on 03 February 2011 - 02:34 PM, said:

I'll start: (BR = the current "regular" recommendation, BL = Bodhi Light apps)
mail: BR Thunderbird; BL Claws
web: BR Chromium; BL Midori
office: BR LibreOffice; BL Light Office

That's just what I can think of quickly off the top of my head.

cheers
mark

Not come across Light office before. Any good ?

[ottermaton]

http://software.bodh...catid=36:office

It is Abiword, Gnumeric, and Inkscape bundled together for easy install.

Yea, they're good if your needs are not very great

cheers
mark

[Dick]

Nice to see that there is already a discussion going on about the light version software.
One of the things that triggered me to suggest this was a remark from 'the other jeff' that he installed vlc succesfully with 76 packages (!). Maybe the software runs great (it does) but 76 packages is not light on the system.

Thus, sofar:
Email - Claws
Browser - Midori
Office - Light Office
Music player - ?
Video player - ?

Dick

[Jeff]

Dick, on 03 February 2011 - 03:46 PM, said:

Music player - ?
Video player - ?

For music player I'd recommend "Deadbeef" as far as video players go... Mplayer play from the command line is the "lightest" Other than that, I'd recommend SMPlayer.

I do think this is a good idea though, ottermaton would you like to go through each category when you get the chance and define "light applications"? If you are not sure which one to select in a given section drop me a line.

~Jeff

[Dick]

My own recommendated light Graphic Editor: mtPaint
Dick

[Jeff]

Tried that one, I think Pinta is better.

~Jeff

[ottermaton]

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I do think this is a good idea though, ottermaton would you like to go through each category when you get the chance and define "light applications"?

Thanks for suggesting this Dick - it really is a great idea. Fits well with the Bodhi principles.

I'm on it, Jeff. At least as much as I can be at the moment. For those who don't know (pretty much everyone I guess), we're about to move the Get Software pages onto a DokuWiki backend. Even though the articles themselves are pretty much done, it's still going to be a bit of a hassle to convert everything over. (I think there are some tools for this - anyone familiar with them?) Once the initial switch is done maintaining/adding/changing will be much easier.So, for the time being I'm going to hold off on actually creating the list until we have Software under DokuWiki. Then I won't have to make it twice, so to speak.

In the meantime, PLEASE continue to giving suggestions. Don't be afraid to add something to a category that already has an app listed if you know one that's better/lighter. I also don't have the time (or inclination for that matter) to go through all that software and evaluate it. We need as much input as possible.

On a more general note of software recommendations: I see no reason that we have to have a separate app for each the Light and Regular Recommends. There are a lot of packages that are fully featured and still pretty light and could therefore be in both categories. XChat comes to mind. Claws for email is another one I personally would like to see in both. Jeff originally recommended Thunderbird and I just went with it, but Claws by itself is very light and can be loaded with plugins to do just about anything, even your laundry

currently:

Email - Claws
Browser - Midori
Office - light Office
Music player - Deadbeef
Video player - SMPlayer
IRC - XChat
Graphics - Pinta / mtPaint

The full list of categories from Get Software (just for reference, not every one has to have a recommended app):
Audio Editor ( 2 )
Cloud ( 2 )
Educational ( 5 )
Email Client ( 3 )
Extras ( 4 )
FTP Client ( 2 )
Games ( 13 )
Image Editing ( 5 )
Image Viewer ( 3 )
Instant Messenger ( 3 )
IRC Client ( 2 )
Media Copying ( 7 )
Media Player ( 6 )
Miscellaneous ( 2 )
Office ( 4 )
PDF Reader ( 3 )
Peer to Peer ( 1 )
Photo Manager ( 3 )
Science ( 5 )
Screen Shot Tools ( 1 )
System Tools ( 9 )
Tablet ( 3 )
Text Editor ( 3 )
Torrent Client ( 2 )
Video Editor ( 3 )
Web Browser ( 4 )
Web Design ( 3 )
Webcam ( 2 )
Wine ( 3 )

[fore17]

ottermaton, on 03 February 2011 - 08:29 PM, said:

Thanks for suggesting this Dick - it really is a great idea. Fits well with the Bodhi principles.
...
In the meantime, PLEASE continue to giving suggestions. Don't be afraid to add something to a category that already has an app listed if you know one that's better/lighter. I also don't have the time (or inclination for that matter) to go through all that software and evaluate it. We need as much input as possible.

On a more general note of software recommendations: I see no reason that we have to have a separate app for each the Light and Regular Recommends. There are a lot of packages that are fully featured and still pretty light and could therefore be in both categories. XChat comes to mind. Claws for email is another one I personally would like to see in both. Jeff originally recommended Thunderbird and I just went with it, but Claws by itself is very light and can be loaded with plugins to do just about anything, even your laundry

I do also think most will surely agree this's a good idea.
It's also nice to know the Get Software pages will have a new (I guess better) backend - DokuWiki.
If others agree of some use I would propose a small introduction to the criteria applied to define BR/BL applications (or exceptions followed), as well as any other note relevant to that end and place it conveniently visible in its pages.

[Dick]

Since the search function of nautilus doesn't seems to work (at least on my install of Bodhi it doesn't) a simple "light" search function is catfish.

Search Files: catfish

Dick

[Jeff]

http://bodhilinux.co...application_set



~Jeff

[Jeff Schallenberg]

Dick, on 06 February 2011 - 02:58 PM, said:

...the search function of nautilus doesn't seems to work (at least on my install of Bodhi it doesn't)...

I agree Catfish works well, but Nautilus Search works well, too, on my 0.1.4 (with upgrades). Weird.

[capt]

Jeff, on 06 February 2011 - 03:09 PM, said:

http://bodhilinux.co...application_set



~Jeff

Excellent choices, this will make my next install much easier. Also for someone new to linux that does not know what to install on older computers with limited memory this will be good.

capt

[Dick]

Jeff, on 06 February 2011 - 03:09 PM, said:

http://bodhilinux.co...application_set



~Jeff

Nice to see that there is now a light applications overview! Thanks to all concerned.

I do have an issue with the ephoto picture viewer though:
First of all, the only way to start the viewer in my installation is with a terminal command. It is not available in an application menu.
Secondly, when started it has big problems with showing a directory with 34 pictures in it (most pictures are around 2 MB in size). ethumb shows up in the system monitor using 100% CPU power and stays there forever. No thumbnails being shown in the ephoto windows.
So, to sum up: it wouldn't be my picture viewer of choice. I would prefer mirage or gpicview (which I use now, although I don't know if this a light application)

Dick

[okra]

Dick, on 06 February 2011 - 04:19 PM, said:

Nice to see that there is now a light applications overview! Thanks to all concerned.

I do have an issue with the ephoto picture viewer though:
First of all, the only way to start the viewer in my installation is with a terminal command. It is not available in an application menu.
Secondly, when started it has big problems with showing a directory with 34 pictures in it (most pictures are around 2 MB in size). ethumb shows up in the system monitor using 100% CPU power and stays there forever. No thumbnails being shown in the ephoto windows.
So, to sum up: it wouldn't be my picture viewer of choice. I would prefer mirage or gpicview (which I use now, although I don't know if this a light application)

Dick

Dick,
Ephoto actually handles huge directories of images with very large pictures in a very fast manner using very little resources. I have not heard of this bug before from anyone and Ephoto seems to work as advertised for other bodhi users... It is possible you have an ethumb issue. Does the problem remain after updating? Also I added a desktop file to ephoto so the next time it is updated in the repositories it will install an icon to start it.

[Agust]

okra, on 13 February 2011 - 07:18 PM, said:

Also I added a desktop file to ephoto so the next time it is updated in the repositories it will install an icon to start it.

Yeahh!! thank you!!!

Greetings:
Agust

[Dick]

Okra,

I just checked if the problem was still there after the latest update. It still is. Since the desktop icon is not available yet I started from terminal ephoto. I browsed to my sdhc card (FAT formatted) and tried to display a directory with 34 pictures (.jpg, around 2 MB each). The program could not display the thumbs. In system monitor I could see that ethumbd was using 100% CPU. So, I don't know if it has something to do with the use of a memory card, FAT format, too little memory in my setup (512MB) or something else but any help is welcome. I prefer to use a dedicated E-program but it should be usable.

Dick