[Jeff]

Uploaded an alpha image today - http://sourceforge.n.../HP%20TouchPad/

Doesn't work:

- 3D
- Audio

The rest:

- Mostly works

Touch screen on this image works much better than on the previously shared developer preview. Will get out a demo video for sure by the weekend of this little guy in action.

~Jeff

[kjhenrie]

I haven't had a chance to do a lot with it yet but so far I am very impressed. The touch accuracy and sensitivity is greatly improved. I updated my guide on webOS Nation with the new version and an upgrade guide for anyone who installed the developer preview.

Thanks for your excellent work!

[kjhenrie]

I was not able to install apps through midori so I tried a download and got the error below. Is there a way to install packages yet? Can I accept the install on command line in lieu of zenity? Thanks in advance for any advice.

root@debian-armel:~# ./firefox-mobile.bod
Verifying archive integrity... All good.
Uncompressing Firefox-Mobile: Mobile Web Browser.................................

Bodhi Application Installer
Firefox-mobile: Mobile Web Browser

./installer.sh: line 46: zenity: command not found
./installer.sh: line 54: zenity: command not found
Gaining root...
cp: omitting directory `lists/partial'
./installer.sh: line 39: zenity: command not found
./installer.sh: line 76: zenity: command not found
E: Unable to locate package firefox-mobile
./installer.sh: line 78: zenity: command not found

Firefox-mobile Mobile Web Browser installation completed.

root@debian-armel:~#

[Jeff]

The current AppCenter is only functional with the x86 version of Bodhi (doubly so with regards to the .bod files - they contain x86 installer files). Getting an AppCenter that will work with Bodhi ARM is on the TODO list.

~Jeff

[bluen]

Will this support pinch and zoom on Firefox, once you get the package install set up?
Looking forward to the video.
Thanks!

[Jeff]

Multi-touch will only happen if we can get functional drivers for it. I do not write drivers, so unless the community comes up with something I don't see this happening. Honestly - something like this is far less important than getting 3D and audio working - are also driver issues.

Such is the wonderful world of ARM, closed source drivers everywhere :-/

~Jeff

[bluen]

Thanks for the quick reply. I hear the issues. Unfortunately, it is important to the user as her customers need the pinch and zoom to order from her website.

[aeonius]

Just a quick note... can't wait to try this out when I get my Touchpad... hopefully within a week or so.

[Jeff]

bluen, on 13 January 2012 - 03:04 PM, said:

it is important to the user as her customers need the pinch and zoom to order from her website

Understandable. This and many other reasons are why unless we get a good deal of driver code from HP/the hardware manufacture I would not recommend this image for end-user usage.

~Jeff

[Vistaus]

Jeff, on 13 January 2012 - 05:43 PM, said:

Understandable. This and many other reasons are why unless we get a good deal of driver code from HP/the hardware manufacture I would not recommend this image for end-user usage.

~Jeff

Well, the kernel is open source so you may want to take a look at that? http://opensource.palm.com

[grazzt]

Ive installed it, and I think its the further along of the other native ports going? At least from what I can see from the xda forums (of which you should post to let know theres another linux coming). The ubuntu port doesnt seem to have touch yet (and I think ubuntu is maybe too bloated for the TPs specs), and not sure the status of the Archlinux.

Im just curious if there is a dev environment you have setup, a chroot, scratchbox2, whatever, so we could try compiling our own apps and see how well they will work in Bodhi.

So, Im willing to help.

Oh, and Jeff, maybe clear your midori cache/history before uploading root images. :-)

[Jeff]

Vistaus, on 14 January 2012 - 11:26 AM, said:

Well, the kernel is open source so you may want to take a look at that? http://opensource.palm.com

Kernel source != driver source

Example: nvidia drivers on x86 platform.

With regards to developing - simply setup up a Debian testing cross compile to build packages.

Also, I do have a thread for this going at XDA - it links to here.

I don't think I left anything logged in on the midori cache...

~Jeff

[bluen]

Vistaus, on 14 January 2012 - 11:26 AM, said:

Well, the kernel is open source so you may want to take a look at that? http://opensource.palm.com

If I am understanding you correctly, this will solve the driver multi-touch issue, is that right?

If so, that would be great.

[grazzt]

Im just curious what toolchain you are using, I dont want to get into libc hell or anything lile that. Or anything else yoy can share to make x compiling easier.

[Jeff]

Our ARM release uses all tools directly from Debian Wheezy to build our packages. They keep everything fairly current there. So until Wheezy becomes a stable release sometime next year we will be sticking very closely to it. Meaning for the most part we will only be building the E desktop and a few other small things that shouldn't affect Dev work much.

~Jeff

[Jeff]

Vistaus, on 14 January 2012 - 11:26 AM, said:

Well, the kernel is open source so you may want to take a look at that? http://opensource.palm.com

Where on that page do you find kernel source by the way? Operating system code != kernel code.

~Jeff

[Vistaus]

Jeff, on 14 January 2012 - 06:05 PM, said:

Kernel source != driver source

Example: nvidia drivers on x86 platform.

With regards to developing - simply setup up a Debian testing cross compile to build packages.

Also, I do have a thread for this going at XDA - it links to here.

I don't think I left anything logged in on the midori cache...

~Jeff

Well, you'd better ask it on webosnation.com
XDA is a great site, but not for the HP Touchpad. The HP Touchpad has its experts on webosnation.

[Jeff]

Vistaus, on 15 January 2012 - 08:51 AM, said:

Well, you'd better ask it on webosnation.com
XDA is a great site, but not for the HP Touchpad. The HP Touchpad has its experts on webosnation.

How can I ask for what is not there?...


~Jeff

[bluen]

Jeff, on 15 January 2012 - 08:59 AM, said:

How can I ask for what is not there?...


~Jeff

Start by posting in this thread below, tell them who you are and what you want to do. RWhitby is monitoring that thread and he is the
head of webos internals (and incidentally, HP is bringing him in directly on the opensource planning process).

Rod and crew got ubuntu working on the TouchPad in a webOS card on a separate partition within two weeks of the TouchPad's initial release in early July. They've created tools for this (see webos internals wiki)

http://forums.webosn...kernel-143.html

[Jeff]

Bluen - Define "working". Do you mean it simply boots like Bodhi does? Or does it have full functionality of audio/multi-touch/3D?

EDIT: Also there doesn't appear to be any place on those forums for much anything non-webos related. It appears to be an operating specific board (like this is) and not a device-specific forum.

~Jeff