Difficulty installing on a 128 MB system
Posted 06 February 2012 - 02:43 PM
I'm trying to resurrect an old P-III 866-MHz 128-MB RAM CPU I have from the turn of the century and figured I'd give Bodhi a go. However, I haven't had any luck with the installation. When I try and install it from the Live CD (ver 1.3.0), it takes an awfully long time to start up and in going from one screen to the next - it takes me a good 15 minutes to get to the partitioning screen. After that, it gets stuck on "Copying files" (time scale > 1 hour) and basically appears to be going nowhere.
I suspect the problem lies with the Ubiquity installer. The Ubuntu support pages seem to suggest that Ubiquity requires 192 MB of RAM. Is there an alternate installation method I'm missing?
Posted 06 February 2012 - 02:59 PM
Posted 06 February 2012 - 03:03 PM
You should remove/reinsert RAM before installation on no power.
inbetween you should power on motherboard without RAM.
but don't do any hardware change at power-on.
Posted 06 February 2012 - 03:04 PM
Not sure about this, but alternatively, can you create a Swap partition on your HDD before performing the install? That might make a difference.
Posted 06 February 2012 - 05:16 PM
I do have a swap partition (256 MB) on my HD. At first I thought that perhaps the Live CD did not mount it automatically. However, it does seem to do it. According to "free", I have about 66 MB of RAM and 204 MB of swap space available just after startup. And I do tell the installer to let the mounted partitions be; in any case, the "slowness" is evident much before I get to that point.
When I start Ubiquity, there is some rather furious HD activity that continues for a few minutes until the first (Language) screen shows up, at which point it settles down. Once I make my choice, the furious activity resumes until the next screen and so on. The free swap space never falls below 80-90 MB. Maybe I'm having problems due to the combination of low memory and a geriatric HD which means that the swap space access is very slow?
Posted 07 February 2012 - 04:26 PM
512MB/1024MB RAM depending on what your MB can handle & 40GB or 80GB HD available for the price of postage
Posted 08 February 2012 - 06:41 PM
install to usb from a newer pc (real not live ) plug in the usb into the target machine, and boot into any text mode linux (i used damn small linux for that) and than simply use the dd command like:
dd if=/dev/sdb1 of=/dev/sda1then install grub and youre ready to go
also so far my experience with old hard drives: dont use them for swap !
i either dissable it or set the swappiness to very low. (since ubuntu has order to use the swap indeed very much)
Posted 09 February 2012 - 01:19 AM
Any particular reason? With small RAM memory, swap seems to me to be essential.
BTW, neat trick on dd'ing over installation from different computer. But need to recheck fstab and grub.cfg for any UUID change after transfer.
Posted 09 February 2012 - 03:14 AM
the standart swapiness is set to 60
sysctl vm.swappinesswhich means whenever the ram is filled to 40% it will start to swappout when its possible.
another idea: disable the internal swap and use an external.
also the command for changing swappiness so that the ram is used at least full
sudo sysctl vm.swappiness=5this is a temporal command so gohlip go on and try if the system behaves different then.
Posted 09 February 2012 - 11:19 AM
But I really cannot test as my swap, nowadays, is seldom 'invoked' (unless at installation) and with Bodhi being so lean and mean, almost never. Swap is only 'invoked' when system crash (as flash crashes firefox, which also don't happen nowadays too). With computer RAM at 2GB or more, I guess it's just not going to happen.
But I do recall when the system is older and RAM smaller, getting swap to be at least 1.5x RAM is important for the OS to function smoothly, hence my query to you. But it's good to hear an alternative explanation which 'knocks' my old understanding of swap and perhaps why in the past, looking at computer 'bus speed' is also a factor in choosing motherboards.
So thanks again and take care. - Goh Lip