[Microcord]

I've installed three distros (CrunchBang, Mint LMDE Xfce, and now Bodhi) on three computers in the last month or so. CrunchBang had been my first choice for this, now-Bodhi netbook, but it wouldn't start up; LDME my second choice but it wouldn't recognize the odd screen resolution; and now Bodhi, which gets the screen right and connects wirelessly. Good!

The installation instructions are very clear for people like me who are too lazy to want to think. So I followed them unthinkingly. Afterwards, though, I wondered why I'd bothered with the AppCenter. I'd used it to install Okular (among other stuff). I knew I also wanted okular-extra-backends, and wasn't surprised that this wasn't offered in the AppCenter. But when I used Synaptic to look for it, Synaptic didn't think I had Okular installed, and therefore installed it afresh. Did I somehow miss some stage in which Synaptic is informed of what's been acquired via AppCenter? As it is, I'm left wondering why I bothered with AppCenter: what I got there, I could instead have got with Synaptic, with less of a risk of time wasted later. I understand that Synaptic might be inscrutable or overwhelming to people who've never used it, and so AppCenter seems a good idea; but (unless I missed something) there's something not quite right about its implementation or description.

(Incidentally, the link from AppCenter to IceWeasel is broken, or was broken the day before yesterday.)

By default, Enlightenment gives you icons at the bottom of the screen that throb when your rat is over them. I'm sure that some people think this is kewl. But are these people in the majority? (I had no trouble de-throbbing my icons, but I wonder how many people gag at the sight of this.)

Otherwise, good!

[ylee]

Microcord, on 05 April 2012 - 12:16 AM, said:

I've installed three distros (CrunchBang, Mint LMDE Xfce, and now Bodhi) on three computers in the last month or so. CrunchBang had been my first choice for this, now-Bodhi netbook, but it wouldn't start up; LDME my second choice but it wouldn't recognize the odd screen resolution; and now Bodhi, which gets the screen right and connects wirelessly. Good!

Hello and welcome to the Boards and to Bodhi. I am glad you had success installing Bodhi on your netbook. I am not sure what went wrong with the other distros. I use Bodhi on an Acer Aspire netbook but do know that CrunchBang works fine on it, maybe a minor issue with the broadcom wireless card but no big deal. Regardless Bodhi is my distro of choice but I do have a fondness for CrunchBang.

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The installation instructions are very clear for people like me who are too lazy to want to think. So I followed them unthinkingly. Afterwards, though, I wondered why I'd bothered with the AppCenter. I'd used it to install Okular (among other stuff). I knew I also wanted okular-extra-backends, and wasn't surprised that this wasn't offered in the AppCenter. But when I used Synaptic to look for it, Synaptic didn't think I had Okular installed, and therefore installed it afresh. Did I somehow miss some stage in which Synaptic is informed of what's been acquired via AppCenter? As it is, I'm left wondering why I bothered with AppCenter: what I got there, I could instead have got with Synaptic, with less of a risk of time wasted later. I understand that Synaptic might be inscrutable or overwhelming to people who've never used it, and so AppCenter seems a good idea; but (unless I missed something) there's something not quite right about its implementation or description.

Maintaining the stuff on the AppCenter is one of my jobs around here, so ... let's see, I am not sure what went wrong with installing Okular. How did you install it? Did you click on the Install Now Button or the Download Button? In either case the application will be installed by apt the same as installation by Synaptic or by sudo apt-get install ... So applications installed via the appcenter should show up as installed in Synaptic.

It is sorta late here for me but I investigate Okular in the morning and see if I can duplicate the problem. As to the okular-extra-backends package, we offer Okular primarily as a PDF viewer and this package is not needed for basic functionality. We try to keep the applications to a minimum on the appcenter, altho I could see where some might need the added formats the okular-extra-backends provides. (meaning I will think about adding it )

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(Incidentally, the link from AppCenter to IceWeasel is broken, or was broken the day before yesterday.)

Well I didn't notice that but Iceweasel should not be showing up there. We are in the process of adding support on the Appcenter for different architectures. Currently it supports i386 but we developing a Bodhi 64 bit as well as a Bodhi for ARM devices. The last few days I have been adding pages for ARM (ie Mobile) to the Appcenter. The pages you see on the AppCenter are generated by Php code which is currently undergoing a rewrite to better support these different architectures as well as add new features.

Evidently the Appcenter code is currently a little buggy with the ARM pages I have been creating. I am not the developer of the Appcenter code base but I will let him know of the iceweasel issue (this probably also means a few other ARM apps are showing up when they shouldn't with broken links ) I will have to send him an email and see if we can get this issue fix ASAP.

By the way the correct link is IceWeasel. This page will not work on a i386 machine.

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By default, Enlightenment gives you icons at the bottom of the screen that throb when your rat is over them. I'm sure that some people think this is kewl. But are these people in the majority? (I had no trouble de-throbbing my icons, but I wonder how many people gag at the sight of this.)

Otherwise, good!

Bodhi gives you a choice of profiles choose what you want and customize it however you like. I suppose you are talking about the Engage Module/Dock, some people like it. I don't normally use it. To each his own.

peace.

[Microcord]

ylee, on 05 April 2012 - 02:21 AM, said:

I am glad you had success installing Bodhi on your netbook. I am not sure what went wrong with the other distros. [...] I do have a fondness for CrunchBang.

I do too. I'd successfully installed CrunchBang on two laptops during the month or so before I tried and failed to install it on a third. It would boot off the USB device but in an attempt to boot off the hard drive it wouldn't even get through the Grub stage. And I read something, I now forget what, that gave me the impression that if I fixed that problem then there'd be several more problems ahead. With Mint LMDE my screen resolution wasn't recognized. I just wanted to get the little machine running again and then give it to a friend and forget it, so sorry but reinstalling a distro afresh took less time than figuring out how to get the existing one working. With Mint LMDE my screen resolution wasn't recognized. So then on to Bodhi.

ylee, on 05 April 2012 - 02:21 AM, said:

I am not sure what went wrong with installing Okular. How did you install it? Did you click on the Install Now Button or the Download Button? In either case the application will be installed by apt the same as installation by Synaptic or by sudo apt-get install ... So applications installed via the appcenter should show up as installed in Synaptic.

I clicked the Install Now button. And it was installed. But it didn't then show up in Synaptic as installed.

Three other programs that I installed in the same way were Kate, GIMP, and LibreOffice. I've just looked at them with Synaptic, and sure enough Synaptic does show them installed. Some fluke seems to have happened with Okular. Oh well, reinstallation only took a few seconds, and Okular works, so there's probably nothing anyone need worry about.

ylee, on 05 April 2012 - 02:21 AM, said:

Bodhi gives you a choice of profiles choose what you want and customize it however you like. I suppose you are talking about the Engage Module/Dock, some people like it. I don't normally use it. To each his own.

I'm sorry, I don't know what it's called. But yes, to each his own; and it was easy to do away with the pulsation, so I'm not complaining.

I now wonder what to do with this computer that has Bodhi on it. The battery is in terrible condition and there's some intermittent fault (striking perhaps three times in 24 hours) that leads to spontaneous reboots. (The fault long predates the installation of Bodhi.) Sound and video have always been atrocious. And yet it hardly weighs more than the little machine I bought cheaply to replace it, and it's a pleasure to type on it. But I digress.

Again, thank you for all your work on this.

[ylee]

Microcord, on 05 April 2012 - 02:52 PM, said:

I do too. I'd successfully installed CrunchBang on two laptops during the month or so before I tried and failed to install it on a third. It would boot off the USB device but in an attempt to boot off the hard drive it wouldn't even get through the Grub stage. And I read something, I now forget what, that gave me the impression that if I fixed that problem then there'd be several more problems ahead. With Mint LMDE my screen resolution wasn't recognized. I just wanted to get the little machine running again and then give it to a friend and forget it, so sorry but reinstalling a distro afresh took less time than figuring out how to get the existing one working. With Mint LMDE my screen resolution wasn't recognized. So then on to Bodhi.

Well of course we are delighted you chose Bodhi and it worked out of the box so to say

Microcord, on 05 April 2012 - 02:52 PM, said:

I clicked the Install Now button. And it was installed. But it didn't then show up in Synaptic as installed.

Three other programs that I installed in the same way were Kate, GIMP, and LibreOffice. I've just looked at them with Synaptic, and sure enough Synaptic does show them installed. Some fluke seems to have happened with Okular. Oh well, reinstallation only took a few seconds, and Okular works, so there's probably nothing anyone need worry about.

I don't know what happened installing Okular. For the record I doubled checked this morning and on Bodhi 1.4 it installed with no issues using either the Install Now button or the Download button (ie bod file). Any number of things could have happened, like one or more debs failed to download for whatever reason, or they downloaded but one or more failed to pass that consistency check apt does. Or for whatever reason the process was interrupted or terminated or perhaps user error, clicking cancel and thinking you clicked ok or whatnot. For the record, on possible apt errors you can always click that details arrow/button to view whatever messages would ordinarily go to stdout or stderr.

Things happen. Just glad you got it sorted out and installed.

Microcord, on 05 April 2012 - 02:52 PM, said:

I now wonder what to do with this computer that has Bodhi on it. The battery is in terrible condition and there's some intermittent fault (striking perhaps three times in 24 hours) that leads to spontaneous reboots. (The fault long predates the installation of Bodhi.) Sound and video have always been atrocious. And yet it hardly weighs more than the little machine I bought cheaply to replace it, and it's a pleasure to type on it. But I digress.

Again, thank you for all your work on this.

As to problematic computer, the Bodhi community takes donations, lol

And no problem on my work here, that is why I am here trying to make a difference however small in the world

[Microcord]

ylee, on 05 April 2012 - 03:20 PM, said:

As to problematic computer, the Bodhi community takes donations, lol

Uh . . . not really worth the cost of shipping it from here in Tokyo to wherever you happen to be (unless this is Japan). But yes, donations, good idea -- soon, soon!

(In the meantime, I've "donated" a little tweaking; I hope I haven't damaged anything.)

[ottermaton]

Microcord, on 06 April 2012 - 12:31 AM, said:

(In the meantime, I've "donated" a little tweaking; I hope I haven't damaged anything.)

Thanks so much Microcord! The more users that can contribute to making Bodhi multilingual, the better. Have a look at this thread

cheers
mark

[ylee]

Microcord, on 06 April 2012 - 12:31 AM, said:

Uh . . . not really worth the cost of shipping it from here in Tokyo to wherever you happen to be (unless this is Japan). But yes, donations, good idea -- soon, soon!

(In the meantime, I've "donated" a little tweaking; I hope I haven't damaged anything.)

Just a note I approve of your tweaking I wrote the original article as you probably noticed but mostly forgot about it after writing it. lol. It is a wiki so feel free to reword stuff, correct grammar and typos or what not. Even add a new wiki on something if you see a need and know something others might find useful. I have been too preoccupied with my appcenter duties lately to do much documentation myself. But we need all the help we can get from knowledgeable people that can write well