[Rohit]

http://www.world-of-...dream-yoga.html

[bob rashkin]

There was a great SciFi book called The Lathe of Heaven by Ursula leGuin that was all about lucid dreaming.

[Danceswithcats]

 bob rashkin, on 19 April 2012 - 04:47 PM, said:

There was a great SciFi book called The Lathe of Heaven by Ursula leGuin that was all about lucid dreaming.

Wonderful! I haven't read it for years. I'll look it out and have another read. Thanks for the reminder. ULG is a wonderful writer.

[Danceswithcats]

This might be of interest.

[Rohit]

In West, people make interpretation of spirituality in very wrong way.

They want to control everything even dreams...

read my link clearly.. in that a person gets his mind of thoughtless devoid of any emotion, attachment or anything..

[agreeabledisplayname]

I'm reminded of the lyrics from Sweet Dreams (Are Made Of These) by Annie Lennox:

Quote

Sweet dreams are made of this
Who am I to disagree?
I travel the world
And the seven seas
Everybody's looking for something.

Some of them want to use you
Some of them want to get used by you
Some of them want to abuse you
Some of them want to be abused.

One thing about lucid dreaming and controlling it which I've never heard is .. well I guess you are most likely to want to control it only if you believe it is real to some degree? It's like suspending disbelief with a movie. If no part of you believes it is real whatsoever then it's not interesting, or maybe a video game is a more appropriate comparison since it is interactive.

If you are actually fully aware it is a dream then it seems it becomes kind of like pure imagination, maybe a type of thought experiment. Of course it may still be conceptually interesting rather than just interesting because you can make things happen, (and most likely for the character identified as you) sort of like the difference between an original film compared to one based on one of the old tired Hollywood formulas. Control does not yield innovation, it more than likely repeats known behaviors with limitation parameters.

So controlling something may involve nothing new in that you maybe just want to create known special effects like fly around, but that concept has been around with a lot of people for a long time. Also it is likely there is no control over the psyche, rather the psyche is driving which phenomena to exert control over or which form to take. Maybe instantly teleporting somewhere (if you even conceptualize it as teleportation) is not quite as cool as flying. (atleast without some light effects in the case of teleportation) I would find the "awakening" highly questionable if what the person does in the dream is predictable, like the persistence of a body that resembles their physical body. The only thing they've awakened to there is a context where they can control the phenomena, but that is just very limited. All things being equal those biases would not exist if they awakened out of their psychological identity, so I suppose it's how far you go with it.

Rohit, would you recommend the book at your link?

BTW only a preview shows for the New Scientist link, it seem to require a subscription account for the complete article.

[Rohit]

while working on net , I found this two word Lucid & bodhi together. So I posted here.

I have heard about this tibetan mediation before. In my thinking , this has nothing to do with lucid dreaming.

Lucid dreaming is just imagination/illusion/rosy picture of your dreams( particularly in sad life), controlled schizophrenia & deviation from reality.
In lucid dream, one dream what he want to see.

But in mediation it follows Einstein theory.

e=mc².

Lose your matter, travel like light & shine with super energy.

Sorry, I don't know much about this book. But there are many Tibetan monasteries in Delhi. I shall try to get some online material from there.