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#1 Jeff

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 04:47 PM

There is currently a bug with terminology and the 1.7.4 EFLs that we currently use that cause terminology to segfault often.

Do we think we should delay the release for a fix (no idea how long this could take - haven't gotten much dev response on the issue) or do we just ship lxterminal as the default terminal emulator again for this release?

What are the thoughts community? I'm inclined to say just ship with lxterminal.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 05:03 PM

LXTERMINAL!

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 05:10 PM

The only problems I had on 2.1 were with terminology and I ended up using terminator instead. So yeah, something like lxterminal should be the default liteweight emulator for the new release.

There is currently a bug with terminology and the 1.7.4 EFLs that we currently use that cause terminology to segfault often.

Do we think we should delay the release for a fix (no idea how long this could take - haven't gotten much dev response on the issue) or do we just ship lxterminal as the default terminal emulator again for this release?

What are the thoughts community? I'm inclined to say just ship with lxterminal.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 05:12 PM

i agree, ship with lxterminal rather than holding up the whole release.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 05:35 PM

There is currently a bug with terminology and the 1.7.4 EFLs that we currently use that cause terminology to segfault often.

Do we think we should delay the release for a fix (no idea how long this could take - haven't gotten much dev response on the issue) or do we just ship lxterminal as the default terminal emulator again for this release?

What are the thoughts community? I'm inclined to say just ship with lxterminal.

~Jeff


LX Terminal would be fine!

#6 Lucier

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 05:39 PM

Another vote for Lxterminal

#7 caerolle

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 05:55 PM

I use LXTerminal anyhow, never use Terminology unless I am testing something for someone.

#8 Chad McCullough

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 06:26 PM

I'm just going to mirror what everyone has been saying and say ship with lxterminal. To be honest, that's what I use all the time, anyway. Terminology can always be added later, if needed.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 06:35 PM

Prefer lxterminal as well, I also never use terminology.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 06:42 PM

I got to disagree on this. I use Terminology exclusively after comparing multiple terminal-emulators. Faster than lxterminal, and pretty as a peach. Can open all types of files/links, video and picture included, inline, if properly set up. Not to mention the Guides mention terminology as default a fair amount of times, even having its own page..
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Posted 31 December 2012 - 06:47 PM

I'm going to throw in a vote for aterm or urxvt instead.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 06:55 PM

I'm not using this thread as a "vote for a new default terminal emulator". In a perfect world I want terminology (an ELM/EFL based application) to be the default.

The issue is shipping with an unstable version of a terminal emulator is a NOGO. So we either hold the release till they fix it (who knows how long) or ship with something else.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 07:03 PM

What else is being fixed in this release anyway? That is, it seems that this release is basically an E17 release, not that there are any Bodhi enhancements per se. If that's the case, why not just wait?
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Posted 31 December 2012 - 07:07 PM

Agreed with bob rashkin. Makes perfect sense to me.
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BTW, what exactly causes terminology to segfault? I've been using it all this time.
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Posted 31 December 2012 - 07:12 PM

voting on LXterminal.

P.S. as a side note, couldn't we also ask Santa to pack the E file manager with Terminology and get rid of both? ...

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 07:17 PM

voting on LXterminal.

P.S. as a side note, couldn't we also ask Santa to pack the E file manager with Terminology and get rid of both? ...


:lol: No. :mellow:

But seriously, EFM, has MORE than noticeably improved and I use it more than not.
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Posted 31 December 2012 - 07:19 PM

I haven't had any problems with seg faults with Terminology, but if others are I say just leave it in the testing branch and ship with lxterm.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 07:23 PM

I'd say, give them a few more days. If they can't deliver than LXterminal is fine with me. After all we are THE distro with Enlightenment, so we should not wait bringing out the stable E17 for too long. And by that I mean a new release, not an available upgrade, though of course that will work.

The work on the guide is not lost, you can save it for the day Terminology will work again and publish it then, hopefully soon as I got used to use terminology.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 07:26 PM

*argh* :rolleyes:

Okay, I'm in... Once again, the wisdom of Charles has won me over. But I shan't be too happy about it! :angry:
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Posted 31 December 2012 - 07:30 PM

Again - this isn't a thread for selecting default application changes.

So long as there is an EFL/Elm app that performs a function well/stable we will use it as the default in Bodhi (meaning EFM is here to stay). Terminology however is no longer stable, meaning until it becomes stable again it is up for replacement.

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