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The most straight forward thing to get started would be updating the Quick Start wiki pages to make sure all the information in them matches the updated local Quick Start Guide you access via About Operating System -> Help.

 

After that just combing through pages making sure we remove all references to Enlightenment (especially e18+) and replace them with Moksha would be ideal. The Bodhi Guide to Enlightenment (which is a fine name I think even with the desktop change) should make sure it all references Moksha as well now.

 

They are fairly similar - I'll attempt to get to this in the next couple of days to make sure they are good to go.

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Ready to get started on the Wiki this month having been discharged of offensive military liabilities, which means that if a war breaks out in Korea or Myanmar or Taiwan, I almost definitely am staying behind as the national guard equivalent. Pray tell, do I need special editorial permissions to get started? I will most likely be running a virtual instance of Bodhi 4.3.1 to get things done in the following months ahead.

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You will need an account to edit the wiki. I'm not sure we have anyone currently working on things. Are there particular pages you were interested in creating / restructuring? I know the "install guide" could probably use updating? I'm told unetbootin no longer works as consistently as we would like and there are better tools out there we can direct users to use for creating bootable USB devices. 

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I'm told unetbootin no longer works as consistently as we would like and there are better tools out there we can direct users to use for creating bootable USB devices. 

 

Hello Jeff,

 

Any ideas what tools are working for people - I would be willing to explore and assist with updating (if needed).  Should any Wiki pages need updating, I am back around for a bit as life has calmed down - let me know!

 

Peace!

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Any ideas what tools are working for people - I would be willing to explore and assist with updating (if needed).  Should any Wiki pages need updating, I am back around for a bit as life has calmed down - let me know!

 

Unetbootin has not worked correctly for me the past few times I've tried to use it, so I've basically just stopped using it. Some others on the forums may have other graphical tools that they like, hopefully they will chime in here.

 

There is a tool called rufus that does a great job of creating bootable USB's, however it only runs natively in Windows. It's capable of creating UEFI bootable USB's with GPT partitioning, as well as Legacy/BIOS bootable USB's with MBR/MSDOS partitioning. But you have to know ahead of time which you are going to need. Which can be a bit confusing if one has never dug into that stuff before. Bringing me to the beauty of the 'dd' method below...

 

 

Otherwise, currently the best way to create a bootable USB for Bodhi is by issuing a variant of the command

sudo dd if=/path/to/bodhi.iso of=/dev/sdX

in the terminal, where sdX is the plugged USB designation. (The command `sudo parted -l` should give a good listing of which /dev/sdX belongs to your plugged in USB) This method will make the USB bootable and installable in both Legacy/BIOS and UEFI systems. No other action is necessary in USB creation.  **except very rarely, on some systems I have had to unplug the USB while power is off and re-insert before booting, not sure why**  Our ISO's are created using a hybrid boot method very similar to what Ubuntu also uses. So basically, a USB created using 'dd' will automatically know how to boot based on the current settings in the "BIOS". (You probably know all of this stuff, but I'm just putting it here for completeness.)

 

 

Alternatively, if someone wants to burn a CD/DVD that will be bootable under both Legacy & UEFI, this command will work:

(it is basically the equivalent of 'dd' for a CD/DVD)

xorrecord dev=/dev/sr0 speed=12 fs=8m blank=as_needed -eject padsize=300k /path/to/bodhi.iso
-- or --
you may need to replace 'sr0' above with one of --> cdrom, cdrw, dvd, dvdrw (or possibly others) 

Back to rufus, or any other graphical USB creator...

Windows 8/10 users will have to create a UEFI-USB if they want to maintain dual boot with Windows.

Windows 7 users may have to experiment a bit to determine *for sure* which boot methed they need to use. GPT partitioning and UEFI boot methods were beginning to be implemented during the Windows 7 era.

Windows XP and below users will for sure be booting in Legacy mode.

 

But again, if the USB is created using the 'dd' method above, the USB will automatically boot using the correct method for that PC's "BIOS" setup. (BIOS vs UEFI is a whole different conversation, there are actually very very few machines that will be using BIOS to boot.  Even though it may be an old PC booting in Legacy mode, there's a very good chance that it's actually using a UEFI interface, not technically BIOS.  Anyway... Squirrel !) 

 

Thanks to all who work on the wiki, and many regards.

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Thank you, Sef!

 

Do you think it would be worthwhile to include your excellent information [thank you, btw!] near the end of the install page under a heading of something along the lines of, "*if unetbootin didn't work*"?  I am fortunate in that unetbootin has worked successfully each time I have attempted. 

 

I am not sure how much access I have to a Windows machine...but I'm sure we could acquire some screen shots, etc.  Also, thank you for walking me through this information, as creating bootable install media is not one of my strengths.

 

Let's come up with a step by step to post and check with Jeff to see if it jives? 

 

Thank you again, Sef - your knowledge of Linux is awesome :)

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Thank you, you're far too kind, I'm simply standing on the shoulders of many giants.   ^_^

 

As far as the wiki goes, if we're going to copy & paste what I've just written, I'll go through it and write it out in a better way and PM it to you. Hopefully I can get to it by the end of the week. Looks like I'll probably have some time Thurs and/or Fri.

 

I like your idea about *if unetbootin didn't work*, because many people are familiar with it and most would rather use a GUI than cmd line. Also, it's possible that unetbootin will start working with UEFI USB creations at some point.

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Sef,

 

I did a rough first attempt at a go through on this - if you want to take a look and PM me changes, etc, that would be great. 

 

Thanks for the initial "alternative - if Unetbootin fails" guide!

 

Cheers!

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If you are looking for a decent wiki page that would be useful to have - detailing how to add start up applications is a question that pops up enough that a wiki page would be useful showing how to use the System Tool GUI / edit the files by hand. 

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If you are looking for a decent wiki page that would be useful to have - detailing how to add start up applications is a question that pops up enough that a wiki page would be useful showing how to use the System Tool GUI / edit the files by hand. 

 

Sounds good - I'll try to start building something, though I have not personally used this feature within Bodhi. 

 

I'm thinking if I get something started then some users with experience can chime in.

 

Cheers!

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Moved and expanded the information regarding 'dd' install method (thank you, sef!). 

 

I haven't had a chance to clean up the formatting yet...hopefully will have more time this evening. 

 

[Edit]

 

Cleared formatting and have started to clean things up - looking a bit better but looking for feedback and ideas!

 

Thank you sef and anyone that takes a look!

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Jeff,

 

Started on the "Startup Applications" page (http://www.bodhilinux.com/w/startup-applications/) you had the idea for and have been attempting to follow the formats of other pages (something I hope to make more contiguous overall at some point soon!). 

 

Speaking of, do we want/have an area or page outlining our Wiki formatting?  Is there an industry standard to observer?  On our Wiki, some areas have programs bolded and actions italicized, (etc) but it does not appear to be consistent.  As Bodhi grows and continues to be more and more amazing, it likely will be a good idea to have an explanation page to keep tabs on this and assist with new page generation, edits and cleanup - even if it is just a private "Team" page.  I would hate to see uniformization become an impossible task moving forward as the Bodhi Wiki grows...

 

***

 

Not to be confusing, for I lack a better way to explain this currently but...I am editing the "Bodhi Wiki"...do we maintain the official "Wiki for Bodhi"?  Is that just a public Wiki?  Any updates needed there?

 

***

 

Anywho...

 

The blank between GUI and CMD will have some screen shots showing menus examples at some point soon.  Other ideas? 

 

Glad to at least kicked this page off - any feedback is so welcome!  Thanks everyone!

 

Cheers!

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Start up page looks nice! Can you point the recommend GUI tool to be Menu -> Applications -> System Tools -> System Settings though? This is the swami tool which includes a GUI method for adding startup commands in addition to applications with .desktop files. 

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Start up page looks nice! Can you point the recommend GUI tool to be Menu -> Applications -> System Tools -> System Settings though? This is the swami tool which includes a GUI method for adding startup commands in addition to applications with .desktop files. 

 

I have updated this area but maintained what I had also as an "alt" method... (I had to dig a tiny bit to locate my method/location as "your [nothing personal] method" does not appear to exist on my system - which I'm sure we will explore!  Am I somehow missing Swami or a menu component?).  I honestly do know know what Swami is or why it would be needed as I haven't run into a use/need (until know!).

 

Very glad to be getting this new page going! 

 

Thank you for the feedback and expertise, Jeff!  You inspire! :);)

 

Cheers! 

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If you are looking for more things to write / have time - poking at swami and what it does would probably be a OK page? It is basically a tool for doing system things Moksha doesn't. Currently it handles startup applications including the startup commands as well as changing date & time of the system, keyboard input, and lightdm settings.

 

At some point if I get inspired / have time again I'll add the ability to modify user settings via it. 

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Interesting...for some reason my system does not have swami installed. 

 

I'll install it and go from there.

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What is needed to insert pictures/screen shots into the Wiki?  Using the add media button will not let my add my screen shots - error states "says sorry this file type is not permitted for security reasons".  I am saving my shots as PNGs...what else is needed?  I initially through just copy and paste would work but that doesn't seem to jive either.

 

https://tribulant.com/blog/wordpress/how-to-fix-sorry-this-file-type-is-not-permitted-for-security-reasons/

 

This link seems to indicate we may need a new plugin or to update our version? 

 

Ideas (and thanks for the assistance in advance community!)?

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Updated the "Startup Applications and Swami Control Panel" wiki page to include information about Swami as these sections were rather intertwined.  The current formatting is pretty lame despite me trying to break things down logically to represent the menu system.  Thoughts?

 

We definitely need so some screen shots - I am not currently able to accomplish adding these - boo.  Anywho - we now have a Swami section.  Swami  is great - I wish it was on my system earlier!

 

Cheers Bodhi Bandits! 

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Hello Everyone,

 

I have condensed the newly created Managing Startup Applications and also the new Swami Config pages to be included in the Configuring a New Bodhi Installation page - I figure the more concise our documentation is, the easier it will be to manage going forward...and at least to me, these are all new configuration tasks and enough of the Config. New Install page had changed so that the only way I knew how to make changes was via Swami anyway. 

 

I almost eradicated the Changing Default Language page and included it on the Config. New Install page, but thought this was a special enough of a case to warrant its own Wiki.

 

I changed the formatting so that we have a Contents Menu to click to sections too, which I find helpful.

 

Feedback, as always, is most welcome.  Thanks All!

 

Cheers!

 

[Edit]

 

I have been trying to dig through the forums and anytime someone says that something is not accurate in our Wiki or someone responds that "oh yeah, our wiki needs to be updated" I have been trying to take note.  That said, point me at any known pages with issues and I will gladly attempt to update! :)

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@oblio

 

Wiki Page: Changing default language > Step 4 > Input methods.

You'll see a mention of ibus being a good choice in general. Can you replace that with fcitx as it is the default recommended by Ubuntu for being most universal currently.

 

Enjoy,

Charles

 

PS: I agree with Jeff, pages look good!

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On it, Charles - thank you!

 

[edit] - sorry, forgot to mention a few days ago that this was corrected!

 

Keep letting me know what needs updating - thank you, All!

 

Cheers!

 

Oblio

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